Awesome talk by Lady Babalon. My favorite parts are quoted below. A very intelligent and talented woman. Sadly, there were no more episodes from this particular radio show.
From the page description:
Conjuring the Spirits: Samigina, Raum, Marbas, Focalor, Valefor & Vepar.
Description: Hosted by Frater SUM, and Lady Babalon, (of Goetiamagick.com fame), this show explores the study and practice of Spirit Evocation, as outlined in the book, The Lemegeton (aka The Lesser Key of Solomon).
About Lady Babalon: Lady Babalon is an initiated Priestess and Ceremonial Magician, trained in the Magickal Art of Evocation. She is a respected Psychic Trance Medium, Certified Grand Master of the Tarot, Astrologer, Numerologist, Qabalist, Occult Scholar, and Demonologist. She is one of only a handful of people in the world who teaches the Black Art of Goetic Evocation.
“Angels and spirits are oftentimes considered to be best evoked under particular time frames. That being said, today’s episode will be concerning ourselves with the 6 spirits which may be evoked during the time the sun is in Taurus. […] Remember, the spirits of the Goetia are not benign and are limited in the scope of ability. Which means many people think that you can just conjure a spirit and fix everything. That is not true. […] Remember King Solomon devised the design of the temple and had the Goetia spirits do the hard labor and the manual labor or attract it and use it. So people that are interested in evoking the spirits for foolish reasons should disabuse themselves of that folly.”
“People very frequently ask me,’Well, why can’t I evoke a spirit anytime I want?’ and the answer to that is,’Certainly you may. But I want you to understand this: If you have $1,000 in the bank and you want to take it out, you can take it out at any time. However, if you wish to see a teller, if you wish to get the money out in person, you can go to the ATM, you can get your money out, it won’t be the same as with a human being. So you have to pay attention to the hours of operation. And that is exactly how magick is best done.'”
“Other people say they would wish to evoke the spirit into physical manifestation, physical presence. That also is completely ridiculous. Now the way you can do that is illegally and blood would need to be spilled, and I certainly do not advocate any torture of any person nor any use of blood or bodily fluids from yourself or any other creature. Again, I am strongly suggesting you refrain from that. Spirits once in a great while can manifest but they need a material vehicle or vessel in which to do that. Do not evoke the spirits into yourself. Why would you do that? Just for fun, many people say. Well, it’s not fun. It’s not fun to be possessed. It’s not fun to be obsessed. And in doing these ridiculous actions you put yourself up for real physical and mental and spiritual danger. And I’m not speaking from a Christian standpoint.”
“As the wonderful Aleister Crowley put forth as the Master Therion in MITP, it was much easier to get a job and get a paycheck than it is to do magick properly to get the same results. Magick is not the last-ditch effort to make up for the ridiculous decisions you have made in your life that put you at a disadvantage. You really want to evoke the spirits cautiously and from a standpoint of power. And then and only then will you have any chance of getting a Goetia spirit to do your bidding.”
“Minor problem: I wanted certain things to last indefinitely; however, my own true desires had been fulfilled. And since Beleth is a love spirit and has a great power, he can maybe somewhat bring a person into your life. But say you decide you just no longer love this person you’re in a relationship with even after all the love is gone. I guarantee this person themself also will be gone once you had your fill of Beleth and what he can bring. So I highly caution those of you who are listening right now to never use the Goetia spirits for love and sexual reasons. There’s a lot more damage and heartache and upset than you might ever realize. So again, live by the sword, die by the sword. That which you get by the procurement of people into your life by use of the spirits, those same people will disappear and there will be nothing you can do about it.”